Computers

[Will Dover]

1) I assume that, because they are equipment, they are purchasable for PCs, yes?
2) If so, what's a computer's level? 2 x tier?

If you have a reference, please post it with the answer.

Thanks,

Will

[Rlockwood]

computers are located on page 214 

There is a computer for each tier, look at the chart on page 214.

On page 215-216 are charts showing what extras you can add to your compter.

[Will Dover]

This does not answer the question. In SFS, players buy equipment based on level. There is no apparent correlation between equipment level and computer tier.

Will

[Rlockwood]

hmm, well in herolab the item level of the computer is 2x the tier of the compter.

[Will Dover]

hmm, well in herolab the item level of the computer is 2x the tier of the compter.

That is my assumption as well, but it would be good to confirm this with a text reference or a FAQ entry. HeroLab is not a valid reference for this.

Thanks,

Will

[TheMaskedFerret]

I have seen that rule somewhere... I just cannot remember where...

[Will Dover]

Okay, maybe, indirectly, this addresses the issue (CRB, pg. 196, 198)

"If you have access to a suit that is unattended or worn by a helpless creature, you can turn on its environmental protection as a full action, but turning it off requires a Computers check to hack the system, treating the suit as a computer with a tier equal to half the suit’s item level (the base DC to hack a computer is equal to 13 + 4 per tier)." (emphasis mine). Using math, this would indicate that the level of a computer is double its tier (at least, as far as SFS access goes).

Will

[liamfisher]

So, this is an oblique reference, but I think this is it.  You have to construct a computer.

P 235 CRB

A player character can create all the items presented in
this chapter as long as he has the skills, materials, tools, and
time needed to construct it. He must have a number of ranks
in the appropriate skill equal to the item level of the item to
be created. For weapons, armor, vehicles, and technological
equipment, the appropriate skill is Engineering. For magic
fusions and magic items, the appropriate skill is Mysticism.
For hybrid items, you must have the required ranks in both
Engineering and Mysticism. For drugs, medicinals, and
poisons, the skill can be either Life Science or Physical
Science. For any food or drink, the appropriate skill is Life
Science. For computers, you can use either Computers or
Engineering, and you can construct a computer with a tier
equal to half your ranks in the skill. For items that are not
considered any of these categories (such as most clothes,
tents, and so on) either Engineering or Mysticism can be
used. At a GM’s discretion, an appropriate Profession skill
can be used for a narrower range of items. For example, a
character with Profession (weaponsmith) might be able to
make technological, hybrid, and magic weapons and weapon
fusions, but no other items.

so tier 1 computer at 2 ranks of Engineering or Computer
2 at 4
3 at 6

So yeah, 2x tier is a shortcut for it.

and so on and so forth. 

And UPBs are 1 credit to 1 UPB per page 233 CRB