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Liam (Star Sugar Heartlove) - <SPOILER> - Rlockwood - 06-17-2018
So, we get to keep the three items for our trade right?
and the 3,000 cred doll set we can sell for 300?
RE: Liam (Star Sugar Heartlove) - <SPOILER> - pgfrix - 06-18-2018
Some rough math -
Under rewards, the penalty for not participating in events = 214 credits for T3-4; this amounts to a total of 1,070 credits if wealth is still computed to a normative table of 5 PCs.
Treasure rewards in this section (again, T3-4):
3,100 jetpack armor upgrd
1,716 L7 merciful fusion (probably more than one)
Possible haggled rewards:
500 holoskin
3,580 digital harrow
800 cash/trade good
My guess: a median value for the entirety of the trade is baked into the wealth for the scenario as a base assumption.
RE: Liam (Star Sugar Heartlove) - <SPOILER> - Rlockwood - 06-18-2018
(06-18-2018, 11:45 AM)pgfrix Wrote: Some rough math -The Doll set was 3000 for high tier
Under rewards, the penalty for not participating in events = 214 credits for T3-4; this amounts to a total of 1,070 credits if wealth is still computed to a normative table of 5 PCs.
Treasure rewards in this section (again, T3-4):
3,100 jetpack armor upgrd
1,716 L7 merciful fusion (probably more than one)
Possible haggled rewards:
500 holoskin
3,580 digital harrow
800 cash/trade good
My guess: a median value for the entirety of the trade is baked into the wealth for the scenario as a base assumption.
Reason I asked cause those items dont show up on the chronicle sheet for purchace but under the Hear Friend Forever boon it says "You chose to trade away your prized limited-edition release copy of the Star Sugar Hearlove album in exchange for material goods-but more importantly, you earned the heartfelt thanks of BurgundyBear." Just sounded like we get to keep what we traded for.
RE: Liam (Star Sugar Heartlove) - <SPOILER> - TheMaskedFerret - 06-18-2018
You do, but since what you get is variable, and it did not make it on the chronicle sheet, then... sadly, it is treated as everything else starfinders bring in. Sadly. So much possible flavor lost...
RE: Liam (Star Sugar Heartlove) - <SPOILER> - pgfrix - 06-18-2018
SFSRGG, p 11: 'Scenarios are designed for six characters....'
So, by the math above, the 214 credit penalty appears to be a value between 148 cr (cash equivalent of equipment in the area) and 281 cr (the hardball negotiation including the tradegood resellable at 100%).
(06-18-2018, 05:28 PM)Rlockwood Wrote: Just sounded like we get to keep what we traded for.
You'd like to think that, but I suspect this was botched in editing and everyone just gets to suffer. The correct place to resolve this was probably the boon text, but they ran out of real estate by having two 'preview of coming attractions' boons.
Might be errata one day? Commencement was altered after the fact to reflect the actual equipment haul for the scenario. Putting the negotiated items in the tiered sections at the bottom would explicitly clarify that they've gone into the common pool for the quartermaster to convert to cash.
So the various ways to interpret this:
player spent 50 credits early in PC's career for the privilege of filling out the nominal credit total for everyone at a later table;
player spent 50 credits to effectively buy a mystery boon, which has now been traded for a slightly less mysterious boon;
there is another precedence (no spoilers) for investing 40-60 credits to effectively buy a boon.
RE: Liam (Star Sugar Heartlove) - <SPOILER> - liamfisher - 08-22-2018
You're given credits to buy the album in the scenario - also credits from each mission in The Commencement.
Just about every mission gives you a credstick.
The boon for the album is effectively free and then traded for a more functional boon
that will likely come up in a later scenario. It's only worth the cash if you cashed it in
on the commencement chronicle.
RE: Liam (Star Sugar Heartlove) - <SPOILER> - TheMaskedFerret - 08-22-2018
The 50 credit cost of teh Star Sugar Heart Love is supposed to come out of your chronicle sheet at the end, I thought...
RE: Liam (Star Sugar Heartlove) - <SPOILER> - Kevin Willis - 08-22-2018
(08-22-2018, 03:24 PM)TheMaskedFerret Wrote: The 50 credit cost of teh Star Sugar Heart Love is supposed to come out of your chronicle sheet at the end, I thought...It does. (If Paizo wasn’t down I’d link it.)
The group is given credits to buy *one* album which they then give to someone else (that’s the mission) and if an individual PC wants to buy their own copy of the album with personal funds, they can. Because you have likely found some credsticks by that point, you will be able to buy the album even if you started the scenario with zero credits. But in that case 50 credits is deducted from that PC’s rewards.