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RE: Starfinder Differences - Andrew Roberts - 09-01-2017 Due to the nature of how differently Hit Points work in SF compared to PF (the existence of SP), healing works quite differently. Spell gems exist (which are like scrolls) and you can get multiple castings in a single gem, but a spell gem of a 1st level spell costs 140 credit while a Serum of Healing costs 50 credits. The spell gem of Mystic Cure Level 1 (140 credits) would heal for 1d8+Wisdom Modifier of the Mystic who casts it and you would need a Mystic to be able to use it. Serum of Healing Mk 1 (50 credits) heals for 1d8 and anyone can use it. With the cost difference, it would mean that on average the Mystic casting from a spell gem would need a +8.1 (can round to +8) wisdom modifier to make up for the cost different on a pure credit basis, which is not possible in this system until level 20 assuming a starting stat of 18. Therefore, Serum of Healing Mk 1 is more efficient credit-wise. Add that to the fact that you can't spend Fame to buy healing items like you could with Prestige in PFS, a bunch of Serum of Healing Mk 1 it is. However, I don't forsee needing as much healing because of the existence of Stamina Points, which can't be healed by healing items. The only ways to heal Stamina is to take a 10 minute rest and use 1 Resolve Point to restore all your stamina, or have an Envoy who has the ability to heal Stamina heal you in battle (which they can only do once/person until you take a 10 minute rest). There are other classes that have abilities to heal their own stamina, but nothing for the other party members. But really, the most cost efficient thing you could do is take the Medicine skill and be able to heal yourself using 1 minute of care. You can only do this once/day unless you have a medical lab, but a basic medkit is 100 credits and reusable. TLDR; Serum of Healing Mk 1 heals for 1d8 and costs 50 credits and is the most cost-efficient out-of-combat reliable healing, but you probably won't need as much healing in SF as you did in PF. My first character bought 3 to start off. You can't use Fame (which is the new Prestige points) to buy healing items. For maximum cost effectiveness, you need either the Medicine skill or a Mystic, but the Serum of Healing Mk 1 is the most reliable. RE: Starfinder Differences - dbrain - 09-05-2017 A tidbit re Spellgems: Spell Chip modules for your computer are a great way to save a few credits for spells you might want to cast multiple times in your career, but not often enough to burn a spells known pick on. The initial module costs 10% more than the base Spell Gem, but you can reload the spell for 10% less; basically, the first time you reload it you break even, and it's 10% off from then on. I'm not sure whether using a Spell Chip would save you from AoOs for spell casting; using a Spell Gem seems to basically be casting a spell, but a Spell Chip might fall under using a device. RE: Starfinder Differences - TheMaskedFerret - 09-05-2017 (09-05-2017, 04:12 PM)dbrain Wrote: A tidbit re Spellgems: The other reason to pick up a Spell Chip is for the Sweet, sweet +2 competence bonus when using a skill related to the spell you cast it on. Comprehend Languages looks to be one that would benefit from this bonus.... RE: Starfinder Differences - liamfisher - 09-06-2017 (09-05-2017, 04:12 PM)dbrain Wrote: A tidbit re Spellgems: Quote:Spell Chips Quote:Spell Gem They both say cast - which is a significant change from Pathfinder. So they would incur AOO. Had this come up at Dcon with the spell gems on the Welcome boon and we agreed at the table that it was an AOO. RE: Starfinder Differences - liamfisher - 09-06-2017 (09-01-2017, 02:33 PM)Andrew Roberts Wrote: Due to the nature of how differently Hit Points work in SF compared to PF (the existence of SP), healing works quite differently. I saw about six instances of healing - including one channel. Serum was the least used since it wasn't renewable. RE: Starfinder Differences - Andrew Roberts - 09-07-2017 Added a few more differences. Still a work in progress but it's getting there. RE: Starfinder Differences - dbrain - 09-07-2017 (09-06-2017, 08:31 PM)liamfish Wrote: They both say cast - which is a significant change from Pathfinder. So they would incur AOO. Had this come up at Dcon with the spell gems on the Welcome boon and we agreed at the table that it was an AOO. I pretty much agree. What about cases where the computer with the Spell Chip is in a different location than the person activating it? Remote access is a thing, after all. RE: Starfinder Differences - TheMaskedFerret - 09-07-2017 (09-07-2017, 04:51 PM)dbrain Wrote:(09-06-2017, 08:31 PM)liamfish Wrote: They both say cast - which is a significant change from Pathfinder. So they would incur AOO. Had this come up at Dcon with the spell gems on the Welcome boon and we agreed at the table that it was an AOO. So, remote access spell gems for healing? "Hey, what is this personal comm doing lying here?" followed by Fireball. RE: Starfinder Differences - liamfisher - 09-07-2017 (09-07-2017, 05:04 PM)TheMaskedFerret Wrote:(09-07-2017, 04:51 PM)dbrain Wrote:(09-06-2017, 08:31 PM)liamfish Wrote: They both say cast - which is a significant change from Pathfinder. So they would incur AOO. Had this come up at Dcon with the spell gems on the Welcome boon and we agreed at the table that it was an AOO. Or you could have them on a computer and access it via a commlink? It says it enables you to cast the spell, so it would be at your location with you doing the dance and taking the risks. RE: Starfinder Differences - dbrain - 09-08-2017 (09-07-2017, 08:44 PM)liamfisher Wrote:(09-07-2017, 05:04 PM)TheMaskedFerret Wrote:(09-07-2017, 04:51 PM)dbrain Wrote:(09-06-2017, 08:31 PM)liamfish Wrote: They both say cast - which is a significant change from Pathfinder. So they would incur AOO. Had this come up at Dcon with the spell gems on the Welcome boon and we agreed at the table that it was an AOO. Yeah, maybe even have every caster in the party subscribe to the computer, so they all have access to the team's cache of Spell Chips, rather than purchasing redundant copies just to make sure that whoever needs it has one available (Remove Condition and Mystic Cure IV, I'm looking at you). Also, you just have to hold your computer/commlink to have access to your whole cache, rather than needing to spend actions retrieving the proper Spell Gem. Its tough to get Pathfinder scroll mechanics out of my head. I think Spell Gems always use the caster's caster level and ability modifier, rather than being set by the creator. |